Alas! I have returneth from the rugged wilderness of West Virginia where the work to reward ratio is probably the highest I’ve ever encountered. I was swarmed by insects, walked through miles of nasty bogs, got completely drenched by hard rain, bushwacked up the nastiest slope of all time ever, and got ripped to shreds by thorns only to see 50 miles of trees, shrubs, and rock. The Rocky Mountains have spoiled me (where even the crummiest 3-mile hike will take you to a vista of scenery that is incomprehensible).
I did see one black bear. One glance at my intimidating presence from 70 yards away was enough to send him running for his life into the forest. 100% sheer intimidation.
But I did get some good reading in (It’s amazing how easy it is to sit down and read with full attention for 5 hours straight when there’s no access to the internet, television, phone, family, friends, fridge, or flesh of sum yung gal). The first notable mention is John Parkin’s F**k It: The Ultimate Spiritual Way. Coming from a mostly spiritual/psychological point of view, Parkin shares many ideas about just letting go and eating the food, letting go of goal-oriented exercise and doing what’s enjoyable exclusively, and getting past the relentless pursuit of perfect health and just, well, saying Fuck It.
While there’s no doubt that many health seekers need more than anything to take a large dose of the wonder drug Fukitol that I have touted in the past, particularly myself and my readers, this is not the message many others need. Some people have clearly overdosed on the drug already and need a strong counteracting supplement to their diet and lifestyle. There are plenty of people that forego their health and have for decades, only to find that the quality of their lives is slipping away due to their convenient and habitual junk food and junk life. One 180 reader found the site when looking to clean up his diet after habitually drinking 13 cups of coffee per day and eating movie candy every night for dinner. I won’t name any names, ahem, Yusuf Clack. Excuse me. Something caught in my throat there. But you see what I mean.
Even I probably swung a little too far in the Fukitol direction over the past couple of years after becoming so disillusioned about “health food,” and I can’t help but feel thrilled at how tightening up the ship for the last 5 weeks has treated me. So Parkin’s message may be just what you need to hear. I’ll certainly never forget the times when I let go of the many health adventures I was on only to feel better instantly eating food that I had convinced myself was poison.
Or, like me, maybe you are going through one of those phases where you are eating very clean and falling in love with real food all over again (or about to do some really wild cultish-sounding nutrition stint that involves peeing on all kinds of test equipment). Who knows. But I know that Parkin’s message is good medicine for many people reading this. And I love the way he states it all. I will include some food and health related quotes that I gathered from the book below, totally unedited. If you are offended by the language, then you are probably in need of reading it the most. Thanks to Chris of http://www.zentofitness.com/ for turning me onto this book (I think that’s who it was, maybe it was another one of you British bastards, who all seemed to be named Chris and give the most outstanding book recommendations on earth).
pp. 57-58
“So why all the jokes? Because our stuff around food just consumes us. And I find this very funny. In one way or another we spend so long thinking about it. I’m a man and I think about food a lot. Maybe I’m a man who thinks like a woman. But from all that you hear, women are supposed to think about food a lot more than men.
And if we’re thinking about sex every ten seconds, I reckon we’re thinking about food for at least seven of the other seconds. It’s just amazing how any work gets done in this place.
And I’m being funny about it because that’s the first step in the Fuck It direction.
Our obsession with food is just crazy. And it is hilarious.
Food (like love and sex) is a major area of meaning for us. Though most of us are probably in denial about that. If we were asked to list the things that really matter to us, we probably wouldn’t include food. But it’s usually one of the things that matter most.
First, then, it’s worth getting conscious around food. Start to notice how much you think about it. Notice what goes on when you think about food. Notice how you are when you’re eating. Notice how you feel when you eat good food that you think you should be eating. And notice how you feel when you’re eating bad food that you think you shouldn’t be eating. Notice how you are when you see other people eating either extremely good food or extremely bad food. Notice how you feel when I keep asking you to notice how you feel. Anyway, just start to get an idea of how much food really matters to you.
Next, have a little inward giggle about how you are around food. Otherwise you’ll cry.”
p. 63
“Say Fuck It to your diet. And Fuck It when the voices start coming up. How about saying Fuck It and eating what you really fancy for your next meal? Say Fuck It afterwards when you start to feel bad. And go with it and see what happens. If you put on a bit of weight, say Fuck It.
My bet is that you will start to get over your issues around food.
My bet is that once you can eat what the hell you want, you won’t need to stuff the whole of a birthday cake into your mouth in one go because you know you can have more later or tomorrow if you want.
My bet is that without so much tension around ‘good’ and ‘bad’ foods you may well start to want to eat some of the foods that you thought were ‘good’ but were so painful to eat. You’ll find that you actually like eating these foods. But don’t start thinking they’re ‘good’, just eat what you want and see what happens.
And my bet is that, eventually, you will start to lose weight…
So Fuck your diet and start saying Fuck It; Accept how things are and how you are because everything is OK like it is – let food and your body shape matter less to you. And observe what all these zen dudes have been monking on about for so long: that when you lose your desire for something, that’s the moment when you start to get it.”
pp. 73-74
“It’s tiring and boring to wander from one therapy to another achieving different levels of success. If one therapy seems to be working, you really go for it and get your hopes up. Then it seems to stop working and you get depressed. Every therapy is offered evangelically by someone who was ‘cured’ by it and they think it will do the same for you. It may help, but it’s usually not the cure.
Of course, there’s the chance that it may be. Those hot stones under your eyelids may well cure you of your curly toenail syndrome.
But I’d prefer to look at another possibility.
Some people get so tired and bored with trying everything and spending lots of money and investing so much energy that they simply give up. They say one big Fuck It and finally give up wanting to be whole and well and perfect. They’re still feeling pain and discomfort like they always did and they just say Fuck It and give in to it. Nothing makes any difference anyway, so why should they go through the added pain of hoping it’s going to go away?
They give in fully to their condition. They surrender completely to their pain. They give up wanting to be any different from how they are, now. They probably start eating things they haven’t eaten for a while, they may start drinking and smoking again. What they certainly do is RELAX. The one thing you’ll always do when you really say Fuck It is relax.
And you know what happens? Maybe not straight away. Maybe not for a little while. But they tend to get better. This takes them by surprise, because they’d given up needing it. But they get fully better and achieve what they’d always wanted. Only they’re genuinely not bothered about their health anymore, so it doesn’t matter that much now – even now they’re suddenly in full health.”
pp. 103-104
“Any attempt you make to control yourself… to impose discipline on yourself… can create some tension. It creates pressure that you usually can’t live up to. And the disappointment you face when you can’t live up to your own expectations is even more tedious than the frequency with which you let yourself down.
So just say Fuck It to it all. Just do what the hell you want. Try not to set up daily tasks for yourself to get fitter or thinner or smarter (though we all still will, of course). Once you lose the tension of these self-imposed expectations, you will feel so much freer. And when you feel free, you will be more tuned in to what your body wants:
• You will feel like exercising when you feel energetic.
• You will fell like vegging out in front of the telly when you don’t.
• You will feel like eating healthy food sometimes.
• You will feel like eating junk at others.
• You will feel like stopping eating when you’re full sometimes.
• And other times you will eat until you feel sick.
This is life. Give in to it.
The remarkable thing is that when you give in to the natural flow of life, you will most probably exercise more than you were doing when you were a member of a gym. And you will probably eat healthier food overall than when you were seeing that nutritionist. And you will probably eat smaller portions overall than when you were on some ridiculous diet.”
p. 121
“Yes, my friends, it’s time to say Fuck It to your issues. Say Fuck It to your journey into healing and wholeness. I was on that journey, and I did find that it was going on a bit. That underneath every issue and pain was another one. Then another one. Then another one. There is a bottomless well of pain if you really fancy taking the leap.
So, thus far, we have two paradigms, two ways of seeing life and our journey through it:
1. To focus on the pleasure, and ignore the pain, at whatever cost
2. To focus on the pain, and forget about all the pleasure.
There is, of course, another way. A way where we accept that life is just a dance between pleasure and pain. If you ignore pain, it doesn’t go away. If you try to heal pain, there’s still more there. Because pain is part of life.
Life is pain and pleasure in equal measure.”
Oh I know Troy. You should have written F**k It. You are the Yoda of F**king it.
ReplyDeleteI had this experience with elbow pain. A year ago we bought a foreclosed house, and it was a mess. After two intense weeks of cleaning, raking, etc, I had something like carpal tunnel in my right elbow. Six months later, by xmas, it hadn't healed; in fact, I could barely use my arm. It didn't help that all my cookware is cast iron! Anyhow, I couldn't even reach out and pick up a glass of water. And I'm VERY right handed (very left-brained?). In Feb, I said F it - I'm just going to ignore it and start using it again. To heck with braces and all the herbal pain pills. Actually, I gave up having a hurt elbow for lent (I'm not joking). The very next day, it was fine. It still twinges a little if I'm on the computer too much, but otherwise, I'm fine.
ReplyDeleteHasn't seemed to work for exercise yet though...
Living in the west really does spoil you for beautiful hikes everywhere else... even Hawaii sucks as far as hiking goes - after hiking all over Utah. Another house story - when we were looking at houses, the realtor kept pointing out that there were views of this mountain or that (volcanoes). After a while I couldn't take it anymore "Dude, we're from Utah, where mountains are actually PRETTY. I really, really don't care about a mountain view because these are seriously ugly". I think I offended him. Oh well.
missed you Mattie. And also, you said 'bushwhacked'. hee hee hee hee.
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Sounds like some of our hiking adventures up here in AK! If you get up high enough out of the brush and bog, to where it's snowy, the views are spectacular.
ReplyDeleteMy husband killed a black bear for meat (third year running)--this time I was at a writers' conference and couldn't help pack it out. His back is still recovering. (No, I don't eat it, yes, I do cook it to universal pleasure.)
Be curious to hear more about those odd peeing rituals, Matt, and also whether 'tightening up your ship' involved chugging that quart of maple syrup or chucking it.
Lorelei, I never thought the mountains were ugly in HI! And if you're not bushwhacking through the jungle, there's some gorgeous hiking--the Ka'u coast, up on Mauna Kea, even in Puna...(Big Island girl here)
I agree that it's best to balance out the health seeking with the "Fuck It" sentiment and a remind yourself that nothing really mattress.
ReplyDeleteThe belief that we'll finally be happy when we attain / achieve _______ is a persistent & dangerous illusion. If you can't be happy here & now you won't be happy then either, because the problem isn't your life situation - the problem is you. I mean, this (ficitional) guy found a way to make the Holocaust fun and this (real) guy found a way to make it meaningful.
Easier said then done, though. Our minds have a way of tricking us into taking things (life) way too seriously.
Ela - yeah, but when you're from Utah, Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa are really ugly. I bet if you came back and looked at the mountains after being in AK, you'd agree! I've hiked all those places and I have to say, hiking here just doesn't do it for me. I really prefer slickrock or Utah forests. But hey, I'm loving the ocean life, and no can snorkel in Utah (well, actually, there is this one place... but...), so it's a fair trade.
ReplyDelete"And I’m being funny about it because that’s the first step in the Fuck It direction."
ReplyDeleteTurning trauma into comedy routines. Leaving out the really bad parts, focusing on the good parts. Those times I remember most vividly.
You need to spend more time at Food Lion or Wal Mart to see the effects of overdosing on Fsckitol.
ReplyDeleteFor me this read says there is always an element of self righteousness or grandiosity in our attempts to change or control our health in that we think we have got the answer and that we know best this time, and as many of us here are casts offs of the low carb experiments, we then have to have the humility to see we do not know best. It keeps going though, and seems like one of the main messages of this site which I am so attracted to, is that as soon as we think we know best or know what works we are screwed, as then we are in danger of grandiose thinking and judgments again. The opposite of grandiose thinking is depressive, self negating thinking, this is not a good place to be in either – finding the middle ground between these two states is having complete awareness of your thought processes and not getting swept away with tedious self involvement about food or exercise. Harder said than done!
ReplyDeleteMatt, you need to do a Scot Abel or P.E. themed-month. That's what you gotta do next. Scott abel's got so many ideas to work around and P.E. is, well..... fun?
ReplyDeleteCarl M. reminds Carl N. of Mick Jagger.
ReplyDeleteHere's one for the Peatists, regarding the "it is impossible to be addicted to sugar bs." I think the trouble is that you guys don't consider the importance of the gut flora for human health. From what I've read on here, Peat considers gut flora as a "bad" thing and we should try to keep it as "low" possible... Which is quite an outlandish view, if it is true...
ReplyDeleteHere is the deal - have you ever tried making kombucha? If you have, you might have noticed that those kombucha bacteria love white sugar, but do not thrive on fruit juice, dehydrated cane juice or honey. So... the whole idea of sucrose is sucrose is sucrose goes flyinig out of the window, because we don't just have to consider the human body metabolizing sugar, but also about microflora eating it! IMO, that's the whole "secret" about sugar addiction... Not your body, but your little "friends" are craving it (unless you are starving...) Sure, you can keep such cravings at bay effectively by overeating, or by eating frequently and including protein in those frequent meals... But stressing your digestive system like that might not be a good idea after all.
The question is... which bacteria do you want to feed? The ones that like to eat fiber or the ones that like to eat refined sucrose?
I don't know if "fuck it" is really such a good idea. Whenever I say "fuck it" I feel bad afterwards and it takes some time to recover. Better to learn how to be disciplined without making it stressful imo.
ReplyDeleteYes Matt it was me who recommended the book - I am impressed you got round to reading it. I knew you would love the eating section, haven't seen anyone say f*&k it quite like John C Parkin.
ReplyDeleteGreat job handpicking the quotes. As for myself I have felt better than ever in the last few months by saying f-it to what I am eating. Sometimes I crave healthy foods and other times I will eat crap for 2-3 days on and off.
The funny thing is after eating poor food I really start to crave the high quality stuff. I have even said f*&k it to ray peat and his low o6 stuff - I eat nuts, seeds, olive oil and avocados, not very much but sometimes they are nice and satisfying.
Hans, I have similar thoughts.
ReplyDeleteSpecific Carbohydrate Diet (SCD; see Elaine Gottschall's book Breaking The Vicious Cycle) is mainly for people with IBS, Crohn or similar conditions. SCD theory claims that fruits are mostly very good food (bananas too, contrary to Peat) but refined sucrose is completely banned from SCD.
Also, one should probably check Chris Masterjohn's post on honey vs. sugar
http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/10/high-fructose-corn-syrup-is-sweet.html
And Masterjohn's choline posts might also be very relevant to high fruit dieters: http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2010/11/sweet-truth-about-liver-and-egg-yolks.html
"After studying the relevant literature and tracing it much further back in time than anyone else ever bothers to, I've come to the conclusion that neither fat nor sugar nor booze are the master criminals here. Rather, these mischeivous dudes are just the lackeys of the head honcho, choline deficiency. That's right, folks, it's the disappearance of liver and egg yolks from the American diet that takes most of the blame.
More specifically, I currently believe that dietary fat, whether saturated or unsaturated, and anything that the liver likes to turn into fat, like fructose and ethanol, will promote the accumulation of fat as long as we don't get enough choline. Once that fat accumulates, the critical factor igniting an inflammatory fire to this fat is the consumption of too much PUFA (polyunsaturated fat from vegetable and perhaps fish oils)."
Yay! I remember reading F**k It! several months ago and thinking the section on food was almost like a 180 degree post. Kudos to Matt and John C. Parkin. This is practically the only health blog I read anymore.
ReplyDeleteI love this post! I have started saying fuck it to dietary rules thanks to this blog and have never felt better.
ReplyDeleteI dunno, peeps, after seeing a bunch of flab and cellulite at Lava Hot Springs this weekend, I don't know if I want to let it all go. On the other hand, I am tired of obsessing- It's a dilemma. I convince myself that I'm attractive enough. Then, after a great peptalk in the swimming pool ladies room, I walk out to observe my brothers and husband watching the cheetah lingerie woman at the pool oiling and lotioning, oiling and lotioning. Very tight. ARRRGH, I just can't take it anymore!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteBack to the drawing board.
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Say 'F*&k it' 100 years ago, as a hard working labourer eating mostly whole foods is one thing - saying 'f*&k it' now, while surrounded by hyper palatable junk food...hmm, I think that's already been done.
ReplyDeletehmm, right.. because f*ck it is working so well for America and the rest of the 'developed' world..
ReplyDeleteNutrition is not arbitrary. I think it's a long stretch to go from accepting that you don't know everything and that being uber strict can be unnecessary and counter productive to saying the hell with my health I'll eat whatever and hope it works out.
I don't believe the solution to people's dietary obsessions is the opposite extreme.
I would also point out that being lax or 'f*cking it' is a luxury of people with decent health. If you're in poor health you pay the price. I can't tell you how many times I've decided to 'f*ck it' only to wake up the next morning with a nasty hangover (from food or booze) and feeling like crap for the day.
This F**K IT mentally actually works as I've been doing this for the past month or two.
ReplyDeleteWhenever I wanted to eat something, I just ate it, I did whatever I wanted. As a chid, I never really got to eat things other kids ate so I really crave things like burgers, ice cream, etc...etc... You'll always randomly find me eating pies, burgers, ice cream, nachos, whatever and I'm slowly getting tired of them because I know I've eaten a ton and I can make it whenever I feel like it again. The best part is I didn't really gain any weight and have stayed relatively normal this entire time.
I'm getting back into the 'gym mode' because I feel it is time and giving eating more thought but reading this post just makes me want to go F**K IT :)
"I didn't really gain any weight and have stayed relatively normal this entire time"
ReplyDeleteLet me guess...you're not sporting a six pack at the moment?
In all seriousness, it's pretty easy to maintain an overweight body composition with ad libitum eating...it's another thing altogether if you want to maintain a lean to very lean condition.
So, assuming your standards are appropriately low, yep, f*&k it can work to maintain them ;-)
@Harry haha nice one ;)
ReplyDeleteWhat does your nutrtition look like?
High carb/High Protein? Sample day with macro would be nice + supplements you use.
What foods do you avoid?
Nonsense, unfortunately.
ReplyDeleteA "Fuck it" attitude might be liberating for an obsessive personality but, even in that case, it eliminates the evident desirability of rational discrimination in the choices we are faced with daily.
So, will I buy Parkin's book? Fuck it.
Thanks for the blog, though. It's interesting.
Good post, funny book excerpts, I may or may not try the philosophy.
ReplyDeleteOn another note, I really, really, REALLY want to make this the only food/health blog I read but, Matt, would you please consider changing the font color scheme?
Yes, I found the option at the top and thank you for that, I use it every time. I wonder how many other readers use it (or do they suffer the occular assault not realizing there is an option?)
However, if I click on links in the post or comments it changes back to red on black when I return, then I have to scroll aaaaall the way to the top to change it again and aaaaall the way back down to try and find where I was (sometimes I give up and leave the blog altogether). Meanwhile, the sidebar remains red on black, peripherally burning my retinas, cones and rods.
Matt, please, I'm seriously begging you, PLEASE make the switch to black or grey on white. I'm sure I'm not the only person who would appreciate it...for hours after I've logged off. :)
Haha, f**k it's been my philosophy for years, though it did waver a bit when I didn't have access to many good-quality foods (hellooo university food outlets *headdesk*). But, I think the reason why it works for me is because I hardly ever crave anything but good-quality foods, since I'm a bit of a food snob like that. I don't care for food if it's doesn't taste great, and most storebought junk food tastes positively horrible to me. In fact, pretty much all of the "junk" foods I crave are things I can make at home (pies, brownies, cookies, etc.), so I don't really give much thought to eating them every once in a while. Well, since it's summer I'm making lots of pies, but eh. Good old fashioned treats, made the old fashioned way, are the best imho, and a good summer isn't complete without a good pie or three made from fresh local fruits and berries.
ReplyDeleteAnd in case Harry's wondering, I'm actually pretty slim (not grossly skinny though, luckily!) and am having no problem maintaining my "lean condition". ;)
Oh, and I'd like to say that I like this font colour scheme. I prefer it to black on white...
Is this just in relevance to gaining weight or any sort of after effect of eating whatever??? My sister has the philosophy that if say oatmeal causes her to have a stomach ache she won't eat it because she is not interested in causing her Being pain or discomfort anymore as she loves herself too much for that. I get this, but recently when I have eaten just a small (1/2 cup)amount of ice cream, for instance, my allergies go crazy about an hour afterwards and that is like the stomachache for me. Its miserable for about 20 minutes to a half an hour and I find myself feeling it really wasn't worth it. If I say f*ck it, is the theory that this will just cease after a time??? I know a lot of my issue is with stress and control, so perhaps for me it would be best, but if I'm not truly ready to "let go" would it work???
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